SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Mildly Thriving. I'm Kimberly. And I'm Meryl. We're two average millennials who aren't failing but aren't always thriving either. And we're out to prove that Mildly Thriving is thriving enough. Please make sure you're subscribed and following us on the social medias. And if you're feeling really nice, you could give us a five-star review wherever you listen to podcasts. Now let's dive into this week's episode. Hi, Meredith. Hi, Kimberly. How you doing? I am mild. How are you? Uh, I actually feel like I'm finally thriving today. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah. I've been meaning to ask because you've been a little MIA the last couple days. I have not felt particularly well, and today was the first day that I was like, oh my god, the sun is out. I'm gonna go to Pilates. I'm gonna get on my Peloton. I'm gonna I know. It's amazing what a little vitamin D will do, you know? I know. It's crazy. I feel like sunshine, it's gonna save us all. No. Better soak it up while we can. I did mean to point out recently, did you see the fan mail that we got from someone in California? Well, I actually have no idea where they are. Their area code says they're from California. Uh maybe. I don't know. What did they say? Uh so I'm pretty sure this was the same person that had commented on our life would be much better if you were a psychopath episode. Uh the teacher. Oh, okay. Yeah. Our teacher friend.

unknown 1:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Hi, teacher friend. Hi, teacher friend. The the comment, uh, I think it was in response to the episode where I talked about having diarrhea on my flight home. Because the comment just said, land the fucking plane, Meredith. And I opened the email when I was in a meeting, and I had to like try not to laugh out loud. It got me so off guard. It was so funny. So I appreciate I appreciate the poop sympathy and making me laugh.

unknown 2:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

That was good. I'm really sorry that that happened to you. But I mean, that's what you get for eating that lobster roll. I'm sorry for this mistake that I made, and I promise it will happen again. Um thinking, I've been thinking actually a lot about our psychopaths episode. If you haven't listened to that episode, um I think it's called Our Life Would Be So Much Easier If We Were Psychopaths. Would life be easier? Something like that. But I'm listening to an audiobook that is by Patrick Gagney, and uh, she's a sociopath, like diagnosed sociopath. And so the book is like her memoir. And I still think that life would be easier in some regards if we were psychopaths or sociopaths, but you know, it's not always easy for her. So I have a newfound sympathy for people who don't have sympathy. I mean, it's pretty good. I love Mia memoir. You'll have to send it to me. I will. I'm listening to a romance book right now. In fact, I was listening to it right before we shut up. What oh, you gave me a face like, oh, really? Oh, I've I just read two romance books in a row. So, you know, it's like the most stereotypical. It's uh Book Lovers by Emily Henry. She's yeah, the people we meet on vacation author. Uh but yeah, I was listening to it right before we started this, and we're we're on a an intense scene where I think maybe, maybe some mild petting is oh. And I was like, damn it. Oh no, they're like in the same room, things are happening, but then three o'clock rolled around, and you sent me the link to record, and I was like, damn it, I have to start doing work. This is a very intense scene. I'm really sorry that I'm on time. Yeah, you're depriving me of the joy in my life. Just think this is. I do want to show you something. I know you people won't be able to see this if they're just listening on uh Spotify, but I cut a bunch of pothos uh cuttings for you. So this will be like I'm Meredith wanted a Pothos, so I'm I'm propagating one, but I have like six of those. So here's another one. Thank you. I have a little propagation station right here next to my my computer. So yeah. Uh you're a propagation station. Yes, thank you. God, finally, I'm just kidding. I asked you on what Wednesday. Oh, by the way, Wednesday. Wednesday. I just wanted to um think fondly on Love on the Spectrum because that was just magical. That was. We a friend invited Meredith and I over and a few of her other friends, and we all watched Love on the Spectrum and ate pizza, and we had Crave Cookie not this time crumble because we like supporting other businesses as well. Yeah. So uh uh, but I had never seen Love on the Spectrum, and oh my god, the joy that it has brought into my life, that is just the most amazing thing I've ever seen. And now I'm gonna have to get Netflix so I can finish watching, or I'm just gonna come over to one of y'all's houses. Come over. You can hang out. Okay. Or I can hang out with me. That'd be nice. Yeah, I do. Or I can maybe give you my Netflix password. I don't I don't know if that's I don't know if that works. I don't know. I feel like they've all clamped down. A friend gave me a Hulu password the other day, and I was like bracing myself for it to be like, you know, you can't log in. No, you have to log someone else out, yeah. And it just logged in and it was like, okay, like no two-factor authentication, none of that. I was like, okay, I'm here for this.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

Oh yeah. Sweet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Well, um, would you like to know what we're talking about today? I do because I have no actual idea. That's good. Uh that's nice, dear. Oh. They're there. All right, Meredith, entertain me. I'm I'm working on it. Teach me things. Have you ever thought about or have I ever asked you about how you visualize certain things in your mind that we talk about regularly, like time or a calendar, or like the days of the week or the months of the year? I know someone brought this up to me, and I think it was probably you. Okay. So just do me a favor.

unknown 6:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Close your eyes for a second and think of think of Monday. Just think of Monday. What does it look like to you? What do you yes? What do you visualize? Like, where does it sit in your week? You visualize the day. Uh well, uh, like am I looking at a calendar or so think of it in terms of of your week. Um, like just what does your week look like? Okay. So what does that look like in your mind? Do you visualize something for the day Monday? A sad emoji? Really? Uh I guess I'm not really sure what uh Okay. So when I picture the days of the week, I picture them in like a horizontal line. Okay, so except in mine, for some reason, Sunday kind of sits on the bottom by itself. So in the Sunday is a leper to you. Pretty much. It's like the I don't know, maybe because I was raised raised religious. That could be a conversation for another time. Um, but it looks like a straight line, and Monday's in the front, Saturday's at the end, and then Sunday sits underneath Monday. But that's how like I picture the word Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and it just goes in a straight line in my head. And then Sunday is underneath Monday. And I don't like it's really hard for me to describe that, but that is always it has looked to me, and I just think of them sequentially like that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Uh Saturday. Interesting. Um then when you just think of Monday, what do you think of? I think of it in my timeline. Like that's the only way I know how to think of it. But when I was looking all of this up, it was really fascinating to read how many people see things differently. So, like, do you associate it with a color? For some reason, the color red is coming to mind, but like probably because red's like a bad color, like a punitive color. Like it's what they use to mark on your anyways.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

Uh I don't know. Nothing, it has I I don't see it in colors. I don't like I can barely make out like the word Monday, but there's no like identifying spaces, there's no blocks like on a calendar. It's just like stream of consciousness almost of just like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, in a line, nope, nothing. Just like in the ether, white background Sundays just down there, just like dangling. Sundays, dude, yeah. And I've never once thought about like that being abnormal. That's just how I picture it. And I cannot remember how this got brought up. But I I talked about it with someone years ago, and it was fascinating to see how many people think of this differently and how people's minds work differently. But a lot of people do it in different ways. I've actually done this exercise with my cousin and his girlfriend, and all of us saw it different ways. Like we wrote it out on a whiteboard, and like our months of the year were kind of similar, but everything else was not. And if I remember correctly, his girlfriend didn't really see them at all. Like she didn't visualize them individually at all like that. She just kind of like it was like a concept to her. So, how do you see the months of the year? Uh, just like a calendar. So you just visualize a calendar in your head? Yeah. And I usually put them together by like quarter, so January, February, March, and then April, May, June, but probably because I've seen that so many times. Okay. See, I've never like I've never thought about maybe that's why I like using an agenda so much, like writing things down. Uh so I visualize it in kind of like an oval shape with the fuck? I know, it's kind of hard to explain. Um January's at the top, and I see it as in like it's almost just like a concept at first. When I just think of the months of the year, I don't think of individual days, I just think of an oval, or like I just think of the months and I picture them in a certain pattern. So January's at the top, February's next, and then underneath February is March, April, May, June, and then July is uh even with January in this oval, then August, September, October, November, and then December comes back up around to meet the end of the oval of January. And then when I think of them individually, like what let's say I'm trying to plan out something in two weeks. Let's say it's January 1st, and I'm trying to plan out something in two weeks. I like, I picture it almost like looking down a hallway. And it's like I think of like the days being like a distance away. I know. I like, but to me, this is completely normal. I've never thought of anything else. I don't think of it as a calendar. And it's just like, oh, that day is down there. Down that hallway behind that door that I haven't opened yet. Yeah. Uh very hard to explain. And also very hard to draw because when I was writing this episode out, I was like, this is gonna be a hard one to just listen to, but it's not. It's it's it's just as hard to try and conceptualize this onto paper. But why an oval if a gear is not a circle. This is never something that I just I I can remember just coming up with. This is just how I have always visualized it. Weird. And I never thought of it as anything else, or that anybody else saw it any differently until this conversation got brought up, and I thought it was fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

I think I I just visualize them as a calendar. Okay. So yeah, so when I think of like like today's Monday, when I think of Friday, I just feel like Friday's ahead of me, like down the hallway. Okay, that makes sense. But what about like two years down the line? You can't visualize that far out? I I can't visualize that. Because that would like throw your oval. Yeah, I only picture it in a year. So then what happens when you get to like November, December, which is the end of the year, and then some you're you're like trying to plan something in February? It's the same pattern, it just starts over. I'm just saying, I mean, so like God, how do I explain that? So what's we're in April. Jesus, we're in April now. And so I can picture myself on this April, and then I can picture myself, I can picture around the oval and back again. Okay. It doesn't mean it looks any different than this April. I can just go all the way around and picture it being next April. That's so weird. I like now want to ask everyone how do they so many people visualize a year? This is fascinating of that. Okay. So would you consider your your calendar? Is it like floating in space? Or is it just like you, black and white picture, a picture of a calendar? Because like all of this to me is just floating in the nothingness of my brain. Uh, I guess uh a picture. It's color though. See, and mine is not ever in color. That's so interesting, especially because I know that when I write things in color, like I've I I will use colored pens or markers or something, and it helps me remember it. See, I do that too, but just because the color to me on the page jumps out at me. Like there are certain colors, I'm like, oh, that's like red. It's a striking color, and I can be like, that is to me, that's associated with like this is urgent, and so that will help me remember it, but that's not how I visualize it in my brain. So is everything in your brain black and white? Like when you think of like a memory or are they No? Can you if you think of like an apple, can you picture the per like how detailed can you picture the colors of an apple? Uh, like exactly what it looks like. Yeah, so can I. Apparently, everyone can't do that. There are some, like, it's like people do see things in just black and white. But how do I explain this? Just naturally, I don't think I picture it in color, but if I think of a memory and I remember what a place looks like, I can picture it in color. However, if I'm visualizing the plot line of a book, I don't do that in color. Really? Yeah, it's just kind of like a concept. I can I don't visualize it out like you would see a movie. I just kind of conceptualize the places. So let's say it's talking about someone being at a lake house. I can picture what I think the lake house might look like, and I can picture that they're the people are there, but I do not I do not visualize their faces, I don't visualize like certain clothing. It's just a concept. And I can I can picture, I can like visualize the surroundings, but not very detailed. Interesting. So it's just like a black and white TV with like a TV, it's like a play, it's like a play set. Like a Broadway show where it's not really in 3D, it's like kind of painted on and it kind of looks like it, whereas like a movie that's like actually set in like a city and is filmed in the city, no. No, it like the places seem real in my mind. Like I just don't think about them in color. God damn it, I don't know how to explain that. Like, if if you ask me to visualize to visualize a beach, I can visualize the color of the sand, the color of the ocean based on what I know a beach looks like. But when I'm thinking about it in terms of a book, I'm just thinking about it as more of a concept. I'm not thinking about the colors, I'm not thinking about the color of the water. I guess I'm just not thinking about those types of details. I'm just thinking about the concepts of the characters and what it might look like around them. If you had asked me prior to thinking about this, I would have assumed that there are colors there, but I just like I don't think about that. I think about the people and the things that are happening, and on a basic level, their surroundings might look like. But if you ask me to recall a memory, I can remember weird details and very specific details like the color of something. But only if it's something that I've already seen. Interesting. I just finished reading uh Broken Country. Okay. And she's on the farm in the English countryside, and there's a manor, and I've pictured all of that stuff, probably based on things that I've seen. Yeah, that's what I would describe it as. I guess like I I picture things based on things that I've already seen, like a lake house. Like that's sorry, one of the books I read recently had a lake house. But it's based on a lake house that I have seen before, and that's how I reference it. But I just if I'm bringing it to mind right now, I can think of the colors, but I guess while I'm reading, I just am not thinking of the colors of things. I don't I don't visualize them in color. I guess I do. Okay. It does I it's not wrong. Well, I'm just trying to think of like, yeah, like do I picture the colors or do I just picture it and watch the scene play out as a movie? Almost. That's kind of how I feel, but I just don't ever think about I don't think about the colors. Like if you asked me the chapter I just read in the book, like what I thought the character was wearing, I can fucking tell you because I'm not thinking about that. I'm thinking about the interactions, I guess. Hmm, that's so fascinating. Now, if somebody is describing a beautiful red, orange, and yellow sunset, I can picture that. Yeah. But that's like it's a fleeting moment, and then I move on to whatever else is going on in the scene. Like, say you're like thinking about a presentation or a conversation you're gonna have with someone. Do you see it in color or do you I see it in color? But that's be I I think that's because I know exactly where this conversation's gonna be happening and who it's gonna be happening with or the presentation, so I can exactly picture what that location looks like. So, like I'm picturing my work right now and anybody that I could be talking to there, I can picture that perfectly in color. I have the ability, but it's mostly based on specific knowledge of somewhere I've already been. If I'm conceptualizing something I've never been to or never seen, it's hard for me to make that up. Interesting. Like you don't want to commit to the color until you've actually seen it.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Yeah. I guess. I don't know. Maybe my brain's broken.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Maybe your your brain is just not gonna waste time on trying to color things. Maybe it's being efficient. I like that better. We both know it's not, but that's fine. Huh. Okay. So when I was looking for other ideas on this, not just days of the week or months of the year, a topic came up that I thought was interesting. Do you narrate your thoughts? Really? No, it's just a stream of like consciousness, and it I just think of them. But um no. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it. No, I do narrate my thoughts. I like talk myself through it. Okay. Give me to me to give me an example. Like, is it like Bruce Almighty where you have like God explaining? No, it's me. It's me in my head. Just like think I it's like my God. Yeah, duh, obviously. Hello. I've been trying to tell people this for like 36 years. Uh it's just what I consider my in like my inner voice. Like it's me, but in my head. And like when I'm thinking of all the tasks that I need to do today, it's just like, okay, I need to go home and I need to work out and I need to make dinner. Like, it's that, but in my brain. So, yes, I hear that, but I know that there are literally people who it sounds like there's somebody who's narrating. Oh, god. And they're like, Kimberly is now grabbing her pen and she's going to use her pen to like write her thing. No, my brain does not do that. Okay. Because I think of like, I'll be like, oh, I need to do this thing. But nobody's like narrating my thoughts, right? Correct. Nobody's narrating my thoughts either. I'm narrating my thoughts, but I'm trying to think of like if I'm in a meeting and I'm watching someone do something. No, I don't I don't narrate others' actions, but I think that's because most of the time, like, oh well, focus is really hard for me, obviously. And so my brain is thinking about like my inside voice is thinking of all these other things. Yes. While I should be focusing on one thing, and I can't. Uh I think it's a combination of stream of consciousness and things happening, like thinking of memories, or thinking of like an upcoming trip. But at the same time, I'm also thinking like I have to go to the grocery store after work today, or I wonder what Gunner's doing at home. It's a lot of things happening at once. So like little thought bubbles. Like. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think I have a a a narrator, but I do have like a stream of consciousness of like, oh, I need to do that, or oh, hmm, that flower is, you know, falling over. And uh, oh, I wonder what they're doing, or oh, I should mention these pothos. And are there people that just have like minds that are quiet? So when I was looking it up, apparently there are people that have silence, or people think in like concepts or images and not just words. Like I'm, I mean, I think in images, like when I'm narrating, I keep calling it narrating, it doesn't feel like narrating. When I'm saying my inside thoughts, uh, I don't think of the words. I can't I don't visualize the word. Like I'm not visualizing visualizing W O R D. I'm just talking in my head.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

Uh and I think in images. I actually asked this to Josh the other day. And I said, How did people think before we had language? Oh fascinating. Yeah. And it just like everything that goes on in my brain is is words. When you're reading something, do you have a voice in your head that narrates what you're reading? Because I do, but it's my voice. No. Oh, mine, mine does, but it's me. I just read them. I have to force myself to narrate and hear it in my brain. And then I'm like more focused and I can actually like, you know, read it and I'm I'm staying on task, but no. I can be reading and just have something completely different going on in my brain. I can do that. No, I guess we're the same. I can do that. And I think I've learned as an adult that that is a trait associated with ADD and ADHD. Uh reading comprehension levels are lower because your mind is thinking about something else while you're trying to read something. If I'm intentionally focusing, I do have a voice in my head that narrates along with what I'm reading. But if I'm not, I'm focused on those other thoughts, like going to the grocery store or oh, I have this trip coming up. But I can still be like halfway down the page and be like, wait a minute, what the fuck did I just read? Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever like time travel? Have you ever been working out and you are certain that you are counting to like the number that you're needing to count to, like 20? And then all of a sudden it feels like you're at nine, you you were at two, and now you're at 19. It's like, wait a minute. Oh, yeah, I just pick a random number. I'll be like, oh, seven. Yeah. Wait, like, no, I'm pretty sure you did you've done this twice. Yeah. I'm like, wait a minute, how did I, how did I time travel? I know I'm like, no, there's no way I'm that far along. So then I'm just like, okay, start over and focus on what you're doing. Yeah. My physical uh therapist will be like, okay, so we're gonna do 10 of these, but you have to like do this exercise and then you have to hold it for three seconds. And I'm like, I can either do 10 of them or I can hold it for three seconds. Like, you're gonna have to like you need to walk me through this. Yeah, because you're gonna either have to pitch in and like count for me, or like I mm this, like I can do one or the other. I same. Or like somebody giving you verbal instructions. Oh, fuck off. I'm like, oh my god. It's like that scene from Parks and Rec where Andy's like, I wasn't a hundred percent listening to what you just said, but I will give a hundred and ten percent. It's like, yeah, I'll do whatever it is you asked me to. You just have to ask me like three or four more times and maybe write it down, maybe show me a visualization of how I need to do it, then I can do it. Yeah, I used to think I was shitty with directions, and I just realized that I was shitty at like listening to them. People will be like, okay, like go there, and then you go left, and then it's up to the and I'm like, I I can do one. Like, give me one direction and then give me the next one once I've done that one. But if I'm I'm great at repetition, so if I've done it, I'm like, oh yeah, that's the house that I turn at, or like same with learning something at work. Like, I think that's what makes starting a new task so daunting to me is learning something is the hardest part. But once I get over that hurdle, I'm fine. But it takes a minute for me. Like, I don't learn like it seems like everyone else does, and I have to do the process. Like anything with the podcast. I I still sometimes look at the note on how to upload things because I have such good directions. It is perfectly written out in the steps that I need it to be. But if I don't continue to do that, then I'm I'd be fucked. And if I didn't have those notes, I'd be asking you every single time, like what button do I browse just in case? I'm a pr I I I'm pretty sure this is right, but I don't want to fuck it up. And I would be like, Meredith, please review your good, really good notes that I sent you. I do. I don't ask you anymore. And that's why. I'm proud of you. Thank you. Proud of me too. My good directions. Wow. It's all about me. Usually. So okay. So some people apparently can't picture anything visually at all, which is why I asked about the apple. Some people apparently can't like can't picture it clearly. And I can't, like when I'm picturing it, like yeah, I can't. Like how clear is clear. Yeah, I was gonna say, I can like picture a honey crisp apple and like the colors that it could be, like the multiple colors, but like I don't know how clear it is. But it's not like here in my like I can't like feel like oh I can grab that. No, it's like a distant, kind of fuzzy photo of what I know an apple to be. Yes. Uh but like I can see the colors and like I can think of the taste and like the cr the crunchiness of that honey crisp apple. I'm gonna go eat an apple after this. God, I know. Sounds amazing. Okay, this one I found interesting and I think might explain why I'm so bad at math. Oh, okay. Uh how do you do math in your head? Oh, okay. We my okay. I did a lot of flashcards as a kid. So, like if I'm adding something up, I add it to 10 and then go from there. I I think I just m memorized them, honestly. I same because I don't think I can actually add something in my head. I mean, I can. Let's say, okay. Uh let's say I need to picture what? 200 plus or no. Let's say 220 plus 45. So I'm looking at 220, and then I'm adding 40, which means 260, and then I'm adding five, which means 265. Yeah, you have to go like by row. But yes, but I am like looking, I'm basically like looking at these numbers like stacking on top of one another, and I have like to try really hard to remember what came before it. But that's how I add in my head, and it explains to me why I am not good at math. That is a struggle for me. I really struggled. My parents did a lot of fucking flashcards with me. And God bless them. Yep. I could I could memorize certain things, but once you got into like abstract math, I uh so I got my degree in psychology, which at first is like, oh, this is like a social science. I'm not gonna have to do math. What do you think fucking research requires? All math. And so it was required to take statistics and oh god fucking research methods in order to graduate with a psychology degree because a lot of people go into research. I had to have a tutor for both of those classes, and I got a C in both. Same. And my lecturer uh was, I believe he was Russian, and he had such a thick accent, and I just I really I was struggling. So yeah, I also had to have tutors and stuff. Anything from math. So it says here that some people see numbers spatially. What does that mean? I don't know. I don't fucking know. I'm gonna Google it then because I want to know how other people are so good at math. It's a neurological phenomenon known as spatial sequence synesthesia, a number or number form synesthesia where an individual automatically and involuntarily perceives numbers, dates, or sequences as having specific, consistent locations in physical space. For those who experience it, numbers do not just exist as abstract concepts, but they are arranged in a 3D map around them, sometimes in front of their eyes, sometimes in their mind's eye. Dude, no wonder I'm bad at So those images that you see in those movies where those people are doing calculation and they can like move them and they're like like fucking uh Goodwill Hunting or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Those are those people, and I am not those people. I am not those people either. So moving on to memory. Do you have memories? Do you remember them as conversations? Uh, do you remember them as like an emotional feeling, or do you remember them as a visual? Because I remember them as a visual. I can remember where I was sitting, I can remember what someone was wearing, the situation that happened. I I mean, I could remember how I felt at the time, but that's not the forefront that comes up. Like the emotion is not the first thing that comes up, it's the picture of what happened. I actually have a hard time remembering conversations, like specific words. Yeah, it's a visual mostly for me. Same. I was actually recalling a memory of since we just celebrated Easter. Um, well, I don't really celebrate Easter, and I was trying to think of like when was the last time I celebrated Easter? And I think it was when um I went up to my brother's and we decided that we were gonna go sailing. And I can like remember getting out uh onto the Mont Lake Cut, and we had just gotten out to Lake Washington, and then I started throwing up because I drank vodka. And so then like everyone was like, Oh god, we have to go back. But then uh on our way back, I threw up again, and then there were like ducks that were like coming to like eat the vomit, and it was like, no ducks don't eat, yeah, you can cut that out. Oh no, that's staying. I want everyone to hear about ducks eating your vomit. So, what is your perception of time like? And I never really thought of this as a perception until reading this, but um, it says that some people feel constantly ahead, some people feel constantly behind, and some people feel time as an urgency, some people feel it as abstract. But I guess if I had to quantify that, I always feel behind. And maybe that's just because I'm used to, you know, spacing out and thinking like, oh crap, I need to be here at a certain time. There are more instances where I look at my clock and think, oh wow, it's only this time, instead of oh wow, it's already that time. Does that make sense? I I'm more the the former than the latter. Okay, so you're you think ahead. So you think more often that, oh, it's already this time, like, oh, it's already two o'clock? Oh, okay. No, I think more of like wait. Well yeah, now I'm confusing myself. These abstract concepts. I almost always feel like it's later than it actually is. Yes, every once in a while I'll look down and be like, oh, it's not as late as I thought it was. Yeah, damn, I think I had that backwards the whole time. Yes, I almost I almost always feel like it's later than it actually is. Yes. Okay. That's why I'm anxious all the time. Same. Uh not a not a l not a lot of good um not a good concept of time, bad bad time management. So jumping back quickly to when you're reading, when you read, do you hear characters' voices in your head? Do you see the scenes like a movie or is it just words? Scenes in a movie. Same. I don't see it as words. It's I I don't make up voices. Yeah, me either. Uh in fact, I have like it's one of the harder things about listening to an audiobook. I I like listening to audiobooks now because I feel like with how much my mind wanders trying to physically read something, I grasp more of what's going on when I listen to an audiobook. But I have a hard time with the voices that they do, like when they like make up voices for people. Sometimes just yeah, that's cringy. I don't like it. Um, but yes, it to me, it's like vague scenes in a movie, if I had to compare it to anything else.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

Yes, me too.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Um, but that's all I wanted to talk about. I wanted to that's so it's just it's so weird that all of our brains work differently. I know. I feel like a lot of these we lined up on, even though there were some big differences. So I would be very interested to hear from anyone anything. Like you can text us, send us a mess message on Instagram. Um, I just want to know how you visualize certain things or if if it's any different than how we do it because how you visualize a calendar. Yes. Well, I know I visualize a calendar weird, but I never that's why I thought this was fascinating. I never thought it was weird until someone asked me that. And I was like, oh, people see that differently. Yeah. So I just want to know what's your what's your weird thing, or if like you can visualize numbers like that. Cause you yeah, that's I am now I'm glad you said that. I'm now convinced I just memorized uh memorized the answers because I can't. It it's very hard for me to do it on off the top of my head. Yeah. The one thing I can do is calculate a tip. And it's because I move the decimal point over at a z or end at like turn it into 10% and then double it. Oh, I take the tax because it's 10% here. Like you take the tax and double it in Washington, because the tax is 10%, and so you just double it. Oh, nope, never never thought to do that. But I haven't always lived here, so I at the end, not everywhere's like that. Yeah, not not everyone's lucky to have a 10.25% fucking sales tax. We don't have an income tax. True. True. So gives and takes. Yeah. All right. Well, if you'd like to send us a message or find us on Instagram, you can at mildly thriving pod. Or you can do the little text option on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Yes, you can send us a text. It'll send us a nice little email. It looks like a text. Same thing. Yeah. All right. But that's it. Okay. I think uh our brain differences is a good reminder that mildly thriving. It's thriving enough. I have to pee really bad, so let's go.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

Okay. Okay.